Darth Sith
Genbuku. Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.21 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: GM Guard Hi everyone.
We discovered all of this during a routine investigation into an ISK selling operation that had been hacking accounts with key loggers and stealing ISK from players. We were not willing to overlook the fact that someone had just bought a Titan with ISK that came directly from account hacking ISK sellers. Blame us if you want.
Whether the ISK was "skimmed" off the top of some rent deal has yet to be proven and nothing we have seen so far points to that. We actually only heard that explanation after our lengthy talks with the titan pilot came to an end. He had every opportunity to explain the deal to us if indeed it is real, but chose not to for some reason. The explanations we got instead were insubstantial and not consistent with our logs.
Contrary to what has been stated on this thread, we did actually make some efforts to compensate other alliance members for their contributions to this project and as of now those efforts are still ongoing.
I can safely speak for every EVE GM when I say that none of us enjoys a mess like this one. We know that removing a titan, even one funded in this manner, causes distress for innocent alliance members, but the presence of ISK sellers causes such an amount of problems for our players that we have to take a firm stance.
The best way to avoid problems of this nature is to refrain from engaging in any sort of business with ISK sellers.
Best Regards, Lead GM Guard EVE Online Customer Support
First, thakyou to GM guard for the response.
Secondly, this is completely in line with the information I posted in my official alliance post on the COAD forums after this story came out.
I originally did not get into detail of the petition in place on the matter due to standing CCP rules regarding thier discussion, however since Guard has posted it here, I should post our side of it. But i did post that efforts were underway for restitution and i admit to not bothering to read all the crap in this thread anymore.
In regards to the petition, I would like to say that GM Guard has been going out of his way to work with me personally though this mess and rumours of all GM's being bung holes aren't true. He has treated the situation with professionalism and is being thorough. I can confirm that CCP has made effort to split the "questionable isk" from the isk i personally funded into the titan and make restitution on my portion based on the fact that I have been able to trace the legit origin of all monies I contributed to the project. That said, there is some remaining debate on some other items so the petition remains open and active.
It is important to point out that this debate on the forums has decayed to a DAISHO conversation. All that is in question is the isk aquisition actions of one of our members and it is important that I point out that the alliance in general is not implicated in this at all. I ask that you keep this in mind and not trash the work that the general alliance population has done to remain a viable pvp entity in EVE.
We have said from day one that isk was skimmed from an isk farming corp .. and transfered in small amounts covertly .. prob is we have no way of proving he did not pay for it and are therefore guilty by association. I admit that our titan pilot was livid when the ship dissapeard and could have co-operated better with CCP .. all i know is that I am working the proper channels to try and work through this in a proper and supported manner. Some people use alt spies to steal bpo's , some ships, he stole isk from farmers .. all depends on how you want to look at it and weigh it out.
And now I turn this back to the trolls that want to twist this out of context for another 7 pages of incorrect garbage :)
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